Episode 10: The Gun Lawyer’s Daughter

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

gun, lawyer, abby, knives, daughter, archery, shot, hunting, happy, women, life, deer, set, second amendment, wanted, shooting, talk, evan, nra, dad

SPEAKERS

Evan Nappen, Abby Nappen

Evan Nappen  00:19

I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Hey, today I have a very, very special guest on this show. Someone who is incredibly near and dear to me, and that is my daughter, Abby.

Evan Nappen  00:41

Hey, I invited Abby on to Gun Lawyer show, because I wanted her to be able to talk about what it’s like being a Gun Lawyer’s daughter, because this poor soul has had to put up with me for her entire life, and I think I’ve permanently distorted her brain. You might get a few laughs hearing about how incredible she came out to be. Even though she faced a huge disability from the beginning, and that is being my daughter. But Abby, what I’d like to ask you today is first of all, tell us a little bit about yourself. How old are you?

Abby Nappen  01:27

I’m gonna put my age out here?

Evan Nappen  01:30

Why not? You’re a young woman, and I think it’s fair to say that because I think it’s important for them to know.

Abby Nappen  01:39

I mean, phone number too?

Evan Nappen  01:40

Well, alright, put it this way. You are somewhere around 20 years old. Let’s just put it that way. You’re around 20. We can agree. And the reason I want to have that out there is because there aren’t too many young women who really have an understanding about firearms and weapons and target shooting and all kinds of things that you’ve had quite a varied experience. As a matter of fact, tell us some of the things that you’ve shot or used as weapons. Tell us about that. I want to know what’s your weapons background, My 20-year-old Abby, Gun Lawyer’s daughter? Let’s tell the folks about that.

Abby Nappen  02:29

Thanks to a certain parent. I think I’ve been shooting as long as I’ve been walking. Right? That’s cool.

Evan Nappen  02:36

Yes, yes.

Abby Nappen  02:42

If it wasn’t a real rifle, it was a BB gun. If it wasn’t a BB gun, it was a little slingshot, which is illegal in Jersey. I’m putting this out there.

Evan Nappen  02:52

That’s okay.  The statute of limitations is long past.

Abby Nappen  02:55

I know. But we’re not there anymore. So, it’s okay. Yeah, it’s been fun.  Rifles are fun. I got to experience shotguns, thanks to Gun for Hire. Not gonna plug them, but I love them.

Evan Nappen  03:10

Oh, what do you love about Gun for Hire? Is that like your favorite place?

Abby Nappen  03:14

Maybe?

Evan Nappen  03:16

You love going there.

Abby Nappen  03:17

I wouldn’t mind a couple tickets to go.

Evan Nappen  03:19

We had your birthday there even, wasn’t it fun?

Evan Nappen  03:22

What did you do for your birthday? What 20 or so year old girl says, “here’s what I want to do for my birthday.” And what is it you wanted to do for your birthday?

Abby Nappen  03:34

Go to Gun for Hire.

Evan Nappen  03:35

And what did you wind up shooting at Gun for Hire?

Abby Nappen  03:39

So, we shot a lot. Luckily, I finally got to shoot a Desert Eagle, which is awesome.

Evan Nappen  03:45

And that was a 50 Cal Desert Eagle. You didn’t stop there. Did you?

Abby Nappen  03:49

No. We also did the very intense gun that I can’t remember the name of.

Evan Nappen  03:53

The 50 Cal Barrett.

Abby Nappen  03:55

Yeah. Got a big boy.

Evan Nappen  03:58

You shot a 50 bmg Barrett. What was that like? Tell us? What do you think?

Abby Nappen  04:01

It was fun. We had a really good instructor. Can I plug his name? His first name. Okay. His name is Will, and he’s a good noodle. So, he was awesome though, and was on us with safety and making sure that we felt comfortable even with the extreme gun in our hands. But he was really good. And he talked us through everything, especially with like the earphones and everything can be hard to hear, but he was really, really good with us and made my birthday a really special time.

Evan Nappen  04:30

So, you’ve shot many different handguns. What’s your favorite handgun to shoot?

Abby Nappen  04:36

Well, there’s always my classic which is a 1911. Like a 9mm version is probably my favorite. But  I love Glocks in general The Glock 17 always fits the best in my hand, and it was my birthday number.

Evan Nappen  04:50

Oh yeah, right. Well, yeah, you do have quite a collection. You even have a nice collection of knives, don’t you?

Abby Nappen  04:59

Yeah. But we don’t tell many people that.

Evan Nappen  05:02

Well, we can tell the folks who listen to this.

Abby Nappen  05:04

I mean, it’s fine. Yeah.

Evan Nappen  05:06

So, what are some of the knives you have, too?

Abby Nappen  05:10

I know I stopped counting after 150.

Evan Nappen  05:13

There you go. That’s my girl. That’s what we’re talking about right there.

Abby Nappen  05:18

I love, love, love Benchmade knives. Those are really quality. I have a very special Randall that was given to me when I got my first deer, and I actually gut my first deer with that. It was an experience.

Evan Nappen  05:32

Tell us about that. How did it go? What about your first deer? First of all, how did you hunt your first deer?

Abby Nappen  05:37

I bow hunted it.

Evan Nappen  05:39

Oh, well, and how old were you?

Abby Nappen  05:40

At age 12, and I was mad because I wanted to do it at 10.

Evan Nappen  05:47

I know.

Abby Nappen  05:47

But someone wouldn’t let me.

Evan Nappen  05:48

I could only make arrangements.

Abby Nappen  05:52

I did it before it was cool. Because Hunger Games wasn’t really a thing. And Brave was definitely not a thing yet. So, yeah, I’m a trendsetter.

Evan Nappen  06:01

When you bow hunted your first deer, what was your reaction? Do remember what happened?

Abby Nappen  06:08

It’s hilarious to look back on it, because I remember just shaking and shaking and shaking. I was like, Dad, what the hell is happening to me right now? My language back then was “this is creepy: – my classic statement to my dad. But I was so happy. I didn’t realize like; you talk about hunting. There’s so much patience, because it’s not like you’re gonna walk outside and have a deer strapped up to a tree. The tracking was very challenging, because you have this excitement. Oh, my God, you like hit a deer, and you had that amazing moment. I got to bond with my father and do something that throughout history has been the basic backbone of living, and it was pretty magical. But after you have that moment, you realize all of a sudden, we have to find it now?

Evan Nappen  07:02

Right?

Abby Nappen  07:04

I thought we can just like go. I wanted it to be there and like, prepared for us. You know, me just sitting there. Perfect.

Evan Nappen  07:11

Well,

Abby Nappen  07:11

We have to gut it.

Evan Nappen  07:13

I remember you did make a perfect shot. Absolutely perfect. But even with any bow shot, it’s very rare for the deer to just drop on the spot. We did find it relatively quick.

Abby Nappen  07:26

We found the arrow, which was pretty cool. We still have that arrow.

Evan Nappen  07:29

Yes. Then after we gutted it and all, what did you do with the parts of the deer, the guts? Did you do anything with them? Remember? Tell us what happened with that.

Abby Nappen  07:43

This is a story. I will forever be tragically known (throughout high school and past high school. Yes, I’m out of high school) as the girl who everyone got to hold her “heart”.  My teacher was so excited. She was freaking out. When I mentioned to her, she’s a science teacher, that I was going hunting and spend time with my dad. We’re going out tomorrow morning and tomorrow night. I’m just so happy. And she said you need, you need(!) to bring in the body parts. Now, it’s very strange to have any teacher like pressure you, peer pressure, into bringing in parts of a body of any form. It’s just very strange. It’s even weirder bringing it into school – because it looks like you have a lunchbox or something. Not exactly. I brought in the heart and liver, and she got to dissect it. I’ve never seen someone so happy. Oh, my goodness. But everyone got to like poke the heart and hold the heart. And so, everyone’s like, oh, “Abby, I got to hold your heart today.”

Abby Nappen  08:09

That’s a reputation builder right there.

Abby Nappen  09:00

Oh, my God. Yeah. I just said, “I’m glad that’s all you got to hold.” (Laughing)

Evan Nappen  09:07

Well, Abby you’ve also been an activist for the Second Amendment through your life. I know that you care greatly about the Second Amendment as well, right?

Abby Nappen  09:16

Yeah, I think I have some articles, too. And newspapers holding up some signs for us.

Evan Nappen  09:21

Matter of fact, do you remember how old you were when you made the front page of the newspaper? It was at a big rally, and you were there holding a sign.

Abby Nappen  09:31

I’m pretty sure I was nine for that.

Evan Nappen  09:33

Nine? What did your sign say?

09:35

Protect Me – Arm the Teachers.

Evan Nappen  09:37

Right.

09:38

I still believe in it today.

Evan Nappen  09:40

Color photo, giant photo on the front page of the newspaper day focused on your holding the pro-gun activist sign.

Abby Nappen  09:50

It was a Sunday, too.

Evan Nappen  09:51

So, this is how much you’re dedicated. Matter of fact, you’re an NRA member, aren’t you? You’re an NRA Life Member, right?

Abby Nappen  09:59

Yes, you supposedly signed me up the day I was born. Not sure if that is true or not.

Evan Nappen  10:03

It is true – the day you were born. I made you an NRA Life Member.

Abby Nappen  10:10

Thanks for giving me a choice, Dad.

Evan Nappen  10:12

No, no choice for you, damnit. That’s something very few people can say that they’ve been an NRA Life Member for their entire life – since the day they were born. So, that’s pretty good. You often help me at gun shows. What do you remember happening at gun shows? Why don’t you tell us?

Abby Nappen  10:32

Yeah, I’m not gonna lie. There’s some sexism that goes on.

Evan Nappen  10:37

What? How is that?

Abby Nappen  10:39

Oh, man, anytime I’m in a booth and my dad runs away. It’s just my brother and I. Every person tends to go gravitating towards my brother, unless they want to flirt with me. Then it’s a different story. Right? For the average Joe, they tend to want to go to him even for opening and closing knives and looking at guns and getting descriptions on things. It’s very, very frustrating. I remember, there was an older man a couple years ago, who opened up just a liner lock, and had no idea how to shut it. I’ve never seen someone so confused with it. But you know, that’s okay.

Evan Nappen  11:20

You could do it when you were three, but okay.

Abby Nappen  11:23

That’s okay; he’s learning. It’s fine. So, whatever, I love helping people. I saw him struggling, and he’s just nervous because he didn’t want to break it. He’s like going through the mental stuff right there, and I say, “Hey, can I help you? Can I help you shut that? I know, here, just hand it over.”  He would not hand it over. For the life me, and it was so frustrating. He said, “No, no, I’ll just have one of the guys do it. It’s okay.”  I said, “I can do it. I know I might not have the guy equipment, but I know what to do. It’s a liner lock. Do you know how liner locks work? (Laughing)  He said “It’ fine. I’ll just get the guy to do it.” But get this, Teddy comes over, and he’s about to hand it to Teddy.  Teddy grabs it from him and hands it to me. So, I could shut it, lock it, and hand it back. Teddy won brother of the year.

Evan Nappen  12:15

There you go. He knew, he knew you were getting frustrated. He didn’t like that the guy was not giving you the credit you deserve.

Abby Nappen  12:20

We need to stop this. Yeah, I’ve had this happen, and it happens all the time in other aspects, like going to a mechanic and such. But it’s makes me really sad when it’s something like this that I’ve grown up around to the extent I have.

Evan Nappen  12:37

You also participated in many Friends of NRA dinners, right?

Abby Nappen  12:44

Oh, yeah. The Union rally girl.

Evan Nappen  12:47

That’s good. Showing those auction items and working the games, all for the cause. Your whole life has been focused on this too, as a Gun Lawyer’s daughter, because these are all the things. I think you’ve had a lot of fun. I know you enjoyed shooting the Uzi. Right? That’s good. I know you liked it,

Abby Nappen  13:10

Yeah, I think the only frustrating thing that I really, truly did not know was normal until years later. I was probably 16 or 17. But I seriously thought the only way to get something you want from your parents is to set it up like a court case. I swear, I thought every teenage girl and guy, cuz I’m not sexist, would have to set up what they want. So, let’s say I wanted the, you know, how they had like flip phones or something back in the day, whatever, something like that. I’d have to set up my starting argument and have to have backing points. I had to make up reasons as to why it would be a benefit to my father. Like why an iPhone would benefit him, but maybe getting me to be quieter. I would plug those, and I’d have a whole list. I’d write up a paper. I’d never show the paper though, because I wanted it to appear as if Abby Nappen just had this randomly. But you had to set it up. If I could prove it to you and get my strong enough argument in place, he would give it to me. But if I didn’t, sorry, Abby, write up a new one. Like literally that’s what it was.

Evan Nappen  14:32

Yep. So, I had to convene.

Abby Nappen  14:33

I didn’t even know until I mentioned it to a friend. She was all sad and crying that she didn’t get the newest thing. So, she couldn’t message this boy, and I said why don’t you set up your argument? Didn’t you set it up? Right. I’ll help you. (Laughing)

Abby Nappen  14:50

What? No, no. Come here. What did you say was their benefit? Did you go wrong with that because that’s the most key thing? Going back and stuff. Yeah, you realize the turning point of where Evan Nappen might have affected my life.

Evan Nappen  15:05

That’s right. I want you to be an advocate for things you believe in.

Abby Nappen  15:10

It has helped me.  It might be a danger because I think it kind of turned around on you dad. But

Evan Nappen  15:15

Well, that’s true. Now I’m dead in the water anytime you want anything. I know. But no, it really did help. It made you good, Abby, but made you an advocate and you would stand up for yourself. Oh yeah, that many times for you. It helps make you a strong, independent woman, which is what I want for my daughter. So well, we have some other fun things to talk about. I look forward to talking with you a little bit more, Abby. We’ve got some other fun things. We will; I promise.

Speaker 3  16:01

For over 30 years, Attorney Evan Nappen has seen what rotten laws do to good people. That’s why he’s dedicated his life to fighting for the rights of America’s gun owners. A fearsome courtroom litigator, fighting for rights, justice and freedom. An unrelenting gun rights spokesman, tearing away at anti-gun propaganda to expose the truth. Author of six best-selling books on gun rights including Nappen on Gun Law, a bright orange gun law Bible that sits atop the desk of virtually every lawyer, police chief, firearms dealer, and savvy gun owner. That’s what made Evan Nappen America’s Gun Lawyer. Gun laws are designed to make you a criminal. Don’t become the innocent victim of a vicious anti-gun legal system. This is the guy you want on your side. Keep his name and number in your wallet and hope you never have to use it. But if you live, work, or travel with a firearm, the deck is already stacked against you. You can find him on the web at EvanNappen.com or follow the link on the Gun Lawyer resource page. Evan Nappen – America’s Gun Lawyer.

Abby Nappen  17:16

You’re listening to Gun Lawyer with Attorney Evan Nappen. Available wherever you get your favorite podcast.

Evan Nappen  17:32

Well, that’s right. I am a lawyer and not only that, my daughter is here, and she is a Gun Lawyer’s daughter. It does come with certain responsibilities as well as certain perks. Of course, you know not every young woman is experienced in knife throwing.

Abby Nappen  17:58

Right, that’s a fun one.

Evan Nappen  18:00

You like knife throwing, and what else do you like?  You’ve also done axe.

Abby Nappen  18:06

Kick boxing and also regular boxing. Gun shooting. I was on a crew team for it.

Evan Nappen  18:14

Right. Crew team. You also had quite an experience in archery. What was your archery?

Abby Nappen  18:19

Oh, yeah. So, I was on Team USA for two years and sponsored by PSE and a stabilizer company called Spider, which is pretty awesome.

Evan Nappen  18:28

Yeah, that was great. I’ll tell you, Abby, of everyone in our family, you have the best eye, the best aim like just a natural, unbelievably great.

Abby Nappen  18:42

Besides the fact that I’m wearing glasses right now. But yes, thank you.

Evan Nappen  18:45

Anything you shoot. I don’t care if it’s a bow, handgun or rifle, you are always dead on, and the most accurate shooter of anyone, including me, in the family. Just awesome shot. So, what have you thought about in terms of the Second Amendment and its impact, particularly for women? Because I know you’ve cared about it. What do you think about that?

Abby Nappen  19:13

I think there’s a lot more women out there that want to know and want to be experienced but are too afraid of the sexism that follows. Because the sexism that’s there makes it feel as if you shouldn’t even try. They set up a standard for you to be at, and if you don’t become an overachiever with how you talk about guns, how you talk about knives, you’re just going to be looked down upon and that’s not the case. But I’ve noticed that tends to be the common thread.

Abby Nappen  19:50

I felt that a little bit with one of my shooting teams I was on for gun shooting. They would treat the guys differently from the girls. I had one friend who I’ve known like all my life, and she did this with me. We both really felt that tension, and it makes me sad because then when I talk to girls who have never even picked up a gun, they privately tell me, I would just love to go to the range and experience it. It sounds like so much fun. I’m always nervous for my kids, or my animals, or my husband, which I know it sounds weird. There’s the classic husband defender, but I think it should be a team. You should protect each other. I really wish, and I hope for the future, even though the future looks a little scary with 2020, that we can get to a place. I think Gun for Hire is becoming a huge turning point for this, where a lot more women can come in and not be that knowledgeable but become knowledgeable and not be afraid of not knowing.

Evan Nappen  20:57

Yeah, that makes a big difference. You’ve been able to be exposed to it through being my daughter, but many women have not. When you’ve run into them, and you’ve explained to them even about women in self-defense, what do you think about that? How important is that?

Abby Nappen  21:18

Oh, my god. Yeah, a little too close to home how important self-defense is, because it’s never what the movies make it out to be. It’s always weird situations where they try and put “baby in a corner”. And we need to be able to rise above that. We do have a standard here. But we need to get to a place where men and women are constantly working towards being better and being more protected and having that edge. Because our world is getting a little scarier. I just want that wall to crumble down between men and women and what protecting yourself and what owning guns looks like, because it’s been a little weird.

Evan Nappen  22:13

So, you’ve been surprised, though, by some of your girlfriends. Suddenly, when they know that you are a believer in self-defense and believer in firearms. Suddenly, they kind of come out about it. What happened?

Abby Nappen  22:26

Like, telling me that they’re like lesbian or something because they get so nervous. Like, okay, we can sit down and talk. It’s okay. This is an open space. What’s up? They get all shaky and like scared. Then they say, oh my god, so I heard you do this, and I kind of do it, too. And I was like, okay, so they open up to me, and they tell me either like, a time that they did get to go shooting with someone or how they want to do it or they’ve heard of someone who does it or they heard about my archery and wondered how they could get into that or knife throwing or one girl came up to me randomly just through boxing and said, “Have you heard of these Lipstick Body Guards? I really want to try one out. They sound awesome.” I said, “Are you kidding me? I have one on me right now.” Yeah, I actually have a guy who can get you some if you want. But she was like freaking out and it’s such an insider’s  circle, which is also fun, too. Because who doesn’t love that? But it’s just funny to me that like it’s like a secret.

Evan Nappen  23:37

One of the other sides about you is I know you love animals. You believe in hunting. You respect animals and hunting.

Abby Nappen  23:44

Yeah. Also, your Native American approach with it.

Evan Nappen  23:47

But you’re also an animal lover and I know that you love cats and dogs. Tell us about that.

Abby Nappen  23:57

Mr. Zeus Goose.  He’s our Pitbull puppy. He is an adorable little monster.

Evan Nappen  24:02

Oh, yeah.

Abby Nappen  24:04

He is very much in his toddler phase of either super happy and loving and just snuggle up cute. Or the terror of the house who chews on cabinets. Yeah, right. Just inanimate objects.

Evan Nappen  24:19

You really are a good trainer. You really have an excellent way with the animals.

Abby Nappen  24:25

Yeah,

Evan Nappen  24:26

You really have. I can see it.

Abby Nappen  24:27

I love my cat, too. He’s my little guy. My little man.

Evan Nappen  24:33

Yeah. He’s special in his own way. But boy, they are two different kinds of animals. Aren’t they? It’s kind of funny. They both love you in their own special way, don’t they? Yeah. In addition to your love of animals, your love of Second Amendment and things we’ve been talking about, what is your focus for your career at this moment? What are you working on now? We’re

Abby Nappen  24:59

We’re gonna bring this to the table, too?

Evan Nappen  25:01

Why not? I want everyone to know about Abby.

Abby Nappen  25:03

Okay. Well, I have forever loved beauty. As you know, I used to be 60 pounds heavier. I was a big girl. I was at my largest when I was 12. I lost that weight, and I’ve kept it off. So, it was very weird. I lost the weight while hitting puberty, which was not a good time. Oh my god, I went from never being noticed to all of a sudden attention, and I didn’t understand it.

Evan Nappen  25:35

Wait.  Let’s backtrack one second. Matter of fact, when you first told me you wanted to shoot bows and arrows. Get into archery. I said, Sure. I was happy for you, and we tried to make it happen. Then one of the local communities had a course.

Abby Nappen  25:50

You wanted me to try it out before you bought me anything because I wasn’t getting my arguments then. So, I didn’t fully get what I wanted.

Evan Nappen  25:58

You went to this course, and there’s a woman instructor there. You’re brand new, wanting to learn.

Abby Nappen  26:06

I was super excited. This large, young child.

Evan Nappen  26:10

Can’t wait to shoot. Right? And what did this instructor say to you?

Abby Nappen  26:14

The first words out of her mouth when all I had gone up and said to her was Hi. Hello, I’m Abby. Was. You’re too fat for this sport. You need to find another hobby.

Evan Nappen  26:26

Can you believe that?

Abby Nappen  26:28

Same tone and everything. I was in shock.

Evan Nappen  26:30

Yeah. We’re talking about someone who went all the way to the Dream Team.

Abby Nappen  26:38

Yes. I was a part of Team USA. We were the start to try and get compound bow, because there’s recurve and compound. We wanted compound in the realm of the Olympics.

Evan Nappen  26:50

But that was your great start by this wonderful instructor.

Abby Nappen  26:55

Wasn’t that nice.

Abby Nappen  26:57

Yeah, and I had lost the weight for other reasons, too, because I just wasn’t happy with myself. And I was sick and tired of making a victim. I’m not a victim. I am going to do what I need to do to be a better archer. Not for her, but for myself. I noticed endurance tended to be better for those who would run a little bit or eat a little healthier. So, I worked my booty off, literally. And I had lost the weight, hit puberty, made it super challenging. Then we got into the archery and things really just started to take off. It was kind of you kept working hard, but you didn’t really necessarily know where things were going. It kind of felt like things fell into place. But I’m a believer that if you work hard and you keep your focus on one thing, you’re gonna be brought to the other things. Does that make sense?

Evan Nappen  27:54

Yes. It does and you recently graduated cosmetology school, right? So, you’re getting your license. What’s next? Talk about that?

Abby Nappen  28:07

Yes, so what I was trying to go for with the weight loss was that I knew what it was like to not feel like the world viewed you as the definition of beautiful. I knew what it was like to really feel down on yourself. And it’s really challenging. You don’t realize how much that affects just everyday life. I’ve had some amazing stylists in my life. One I still have today. His name is Hercules, which is funny, because he loves my dog, Zeus. Ironically, we had little moments where for my prom, he did my hair. I’d never met him before, and he dolled me up in a way because I had someone in my family, a distant relative, say that I couldn’t pull off an updo. My face isn’t good enough for it. I’m too big for that and trying to say the same stuff in a different way like the archery woman. It made me very devastated. But I went in and told him, I had this hairdo planned. I don’t even know what to do. I was told I couldn’t pull it off. I’m really sad because I knew it would look great with this outfit. And he told me “Excuse me. I don’t know who told you that. I’m gonna do it, and you’re gonna love it. You watch.” So, I trusted him. He did up my hair and everything. I literally cried in his chair because he made me feel amazing and wonderful and how you’d want to feel on your prom day. So, things like that, moments like that. Every time I was out and about on an archery trip or an archery training camp, on my downtime, I’d be playing with girls’ hair or doing makeup for someone. So, I was very much always doing this and trying to make people feel better. This kind of goes along with my experience when I focused on comedy, which is another whole topic.

Evan Nappen  29:21

Do you think you can combine somehow? Maybe a target range, shooting range experience and Cosmetology hair. Shoot Barrett 50s. What do you think?

Abby Nappen  30:23

Let’s just get my license first.

Evan Nappen  30:25

Right? Well, I can say that there aren’t too many, at least in the stereotypical world of cosmetology.

Abby Nappen  30:33

But we don’t live in that world.

Evan Nappen  30:34

We don’t, and you break those stereotypes every day. And I’m always so proud of you. You have really just done great thing as a young woman. I have to say, you are absolutely my favorite daughter. My only daughter, but you are my favorite daughter. So, I want to thank you for coming on the show and telling folks what it’s like to be the Gun Lawyer’s daughter.

Abby Nappen  31:02

Thank you, too. Hopefully, you’ll get me dinner tonight.

Evan Nappen  31:02

What a challenge. That’s great. Till next time. Remember keep a fellow gun owner from becoming a law-abiding criminal. Tell them to listen to Gun Lawyer radio and visit our website at Gun.Lawyer. This is Evan Nappen, reminding you, that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 3  31:32

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About The Host

Evan Nappan, Esq.

Known as “America’s Gun Lawyer,” Evan Nappen is above all a tireless defender of justice. Author of eight bestselling books and countless articles on firearms, knives, and weapons history and the law, a certified Firearms Instructor, and avid weapons collector and historian with a vast collection that spans almost five decades — it’s no wonder he’s become the trusted, go-to expert for local, industry and national media outlets.

Regularly called on by radio, television and online news media for his commentary and expertise on breaking news Evan has appeared countless shows including Fox News – Judge Jeanine, CNN – Lou Dobbs, Court TV, Real Talk on WOR, It’s Your Call with Lyn Doyle, Tom Gresham’s Gun Talk, and Cam & Company/NRA News.

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