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Gun Lawyer Episode 101
gun, firearm, guns, revolver, law, florio, credit card companies, new jersey, possession, legacy, gun laws, criminals, lawyer, gun owner, crime, sound, people, gun lobby, credit card, penalty
Evan Nappen, Speaker 3
Evan Nappen 00:00
Hi! I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. Hey, you know what I find really annoying. I tell you as a gun person, and I know most of my listeners are gun people. Don’t you love that like being a gun person? Like you’re walking around, and you look like a gun. No. People that love guns like you and me. What’s really annoying is we’re watching some Hollywood movie, some action movie, and the movie is not bad, you know, enjoying it. Then next thing you know, there’s some dumb gun sound that they’re dubbing in. It just ruins it because you know guns. Next thing you know, you hear this stupid gun sound. I’ll give you a great example. I can’t tell you how many times, every time they roll a cylinder. I mean, they open a revolver cylinder. Open it, swing it out, spin it, and it goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Yeah, like it’s like a gaming wheel at the boardwalk or something. I mean, folks, as you know, there’s no ratcheting sound on swing open cylinders. Okay, they love to add the ratchet sound. They’re always spinning the cylinder and making it ratchet. When the only cylinder that’s doing that at all is a single action on a half cock, and you’re turning it. And that’s it. But every time they have a double action revolver, you hear that brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr? Constantly. It’s like, stop. It’s silent. Come on, keep it real. But no, they gotta throw that in.
Evan Nappen 02:06
I’ll tell you what else. Anytime anybody raises a rifle from low ready, you know, they lifted up, and it sounds like a tin can full of screws, every time. Racketracketracketracket. Like, you know, guns just don’t make noise when you point them straight. At least it shouldn’t be. They are pretty quiet. You lift it up. It’s quiet. But man, every time they show guns raised, all you hear is ratchetytat, ratchetytat, ratchetytat. The whole bit. It’s like, come on. It’s not what happens. You know, what’s most amazing really is a lot of Americans, a huge number of Americans, own guns. At least a third of America owns guns. America as a country is not gun stupid. I’m not the only one hearing this stuff and going, uhk, you had to ruin the movie by throwing in stupid gun sounds that don’t happen. Come on. They think, well, the general public doesn’t know and maybe there’s a bunch that don’t know. But so what? We do know. Don’t do that. Stop with the racket attacks, the ratcheting sounds and the gun actions.
Evan Nappen 03:34
Every time they have a shotgun, it gets racked. Every time. You only have to rack it once and then it’s loaded. No, but every time you’re lifting, you’re pointing, you’re moving. Man, that rackets ratchet ratchet ratchet to the shotgun rack rack rack every time. You only had to do it once. You already racked Page – 2 – of 7
it before you walked through the door. There is already a round in there. Yet by the time that scene is over, the guy has racked it six more times. You don’t even have any ammo left in it. He’s racked it and hasn’t even fired it yet. I mean, it’s goofy as can be. Just stop. I’m sure many of you have heard this and just shook your head said come on. I mean, it’s right up there when it comes to sound effects. If you have shot suppressed firearms, you know they don’t sound like pssst, pssst, the whisper. You know what it sounds like. It sure doesn’t sound like what Hollywood makes it sound like. You watch these movies and go they are so stupid. How many times have you seen a revolver with a suppressor, and you go oh, come on, cut it out. Stop putting silencers on revolvers, unless it’s a very rare specific revolver. It isn’t by the way. You can’t effectively suppress the revolver. It just isn’t real good at that. But man don’t put little teeny suppressors on snub nose .38s and it sounds like a whisper, pssst, pssst. Just laugh. They’re idiots. We know the truth.
Evan Nappen 05:18
They’ve got to stop it. How many times is the firearm. They have the best guns that never need to be reloaded. Did you ever notice that? They just keep shooting and shooting and shooting. They got endless ammo. They make large, so-called large capacity, magazines look puny? The amount of ammo these things hold and just keeps on going and going and going. It’s great. I guess it’s because they never run out of the sound effects for firing. That must be what it is. They can keep plugging in more sound effects, more sound effects, burying us in this garbage. It’s so rare to watch a movie and see pure firearm accuracy, and I don’t mean just the shooting of the gun. I mean, accurate in the gun that’s being used, accurate in how the gun is being handled, accurate in how the gun sounds or doesn’t sound, and accurate for the time period. Right? None of the crazy stuff where they have guns that have no place being there.
Evan Nappen 06:35
One great one that made me laugh really. If you ever see 12 Monkeys, that movie 12 Monkeys, and these folks come in a time machine from the future. They come through the metal detector, and they have guns from the future. Do you know what gun they’re carrying from the future? A LeMat revolver, a civil war percussion LeMat. I’m like, what the hell? In the future they all have LeMats. What caused that revival? You know, they just that they figure that no one’s going to know what a LeMat is. Well, I know what a LeMat is. A nine shot .44 with a shotgun barrel in the middle for shot. They were a cool gun in the Civil War. Yeah, great gun in the Civil War. But I never thought it as a gun that future boy would carry. But there you go.
Evan Nappen 07:30
They take guns like that, and they sometimes modify them into futuristic stuff just because people can’t wrap their head around what it is. We all know that Hans Solo’s blaster from Star Wars is a Mauser Broomhandle pistol. You have the (Mauser) C96, an 1896 pistol. That’s the model 1896. They souped it up with some Hollywood additions to it, but it’s a Broomhandle Mauser. I mean, seriously, okay. I mean, it works. It’s iconic. But oh my god. At least that’s been modified by Hollywood, and it’s just a fun little tale, and whatever, you want to have your fantasy gun. But when they try to be realistic and they’re just not, they’re ruining it. They need to have good advisors, and they need to not do this stuff just because everybody else is doing it. It’s so refreshing if you watch a movie, and they’re actually accurate, truthful Page – 3 – of 7
and honest about guns. But then again, it’s the entertainment industry, and we’re lucky if we get any drop a truth out of them on anything.
Evan Nappen 08:51
Well, folks, I have some interesting news. On September 25, former Governor James J. Florio died. He passed away. Governor Florio died. Now, Governor Florio, you may recall, there was a slogan way back when he was running for Governor, and it was “Florio Free in ’93”. That was those “Florio Free in ’93”. There were bumper stickers everywhere that said “Florio Free ’93”. Well, we’re finally Florio free. Finally. Now you may say hey, well, you know the guy is dead. You shouldn’t be saying this. Well, I am going to tell you something right now about Florio. He’s got a legacy, and I’ll tell you what his legacy is. Part of his legacy is the New Jersey “assault firearm” ban. He fought for it. Got it through in his administration, zealous advocate, and incredibly proud of passing the New Jersey assault firearm ban. This legacy, in my opinion, is a legacy that is nothing less than disgusting and evil. Because that law has turned 1000s of honest citizens into criminals. That law is a disaster that has made good people suffer its consequences. It is terrible. It has taken otherwise 100% law-abiding citizens and turned them into criminals in which they now face, for possession of a so-called assault firearm, an otherwise legal modern sporting rifle, that just happens to be a semi-automatic rifle. It’s been around for 100 years plus. No, no they’ve now turned that into the monster, giving it the scary name “assault firearm”, and make believe we’re doing something about crime by passing it. All it does is affect law-abiding citizens who get turned into criminals. They face 10 years in state prison and a minimum mandatory three and a half years, and they face the gun owner Gulag that we’ve talked about, where they’re treated the same as murderers and held without bail. You can thank this legacy to Jim Florio, that’s right. That’s his legacy. A legacy against liberty. A legacy against good honest citizens. A legacy against the Second Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms. A legacy that needs to be erased. It needs to go away, and hopefully with the Bruen decision, as the challenges proceed, finally, this horrific law, this law that has just harmed so many good people and done nothing about crime. No effect on crime. I don’t care how you want to somehow contort the statistics. It didn’t do crap about crime, but it sure did harm a lot of good people. It turned them into criminals and ruined their hopes and dreams, put them in prison and destroyed their finances and just wreaked havoc. That’s what it did. That’s the truth. How do I know? Because I’ve represented person after person, saving them to the best of my ability, from the impact of his horrible, disgusting law. That’s the legacy of Jim Florio. That’s the reality, and the harm that he did is immeasurable. Let me tell you this. I’ll just paraphrase Mark Twain here. When it comes to Jim Florio, I won’t be attending his funeral, but I sent a note saying I approved of it. When we get back, I have more fascinating things about the nonstop assault on our rights in New Jersey.
Evan Nappen 13:40
For over 30 years, Attorney Evan Nappen has seen what rotten laws do to good people. That’s why he’s dedicated his life to fighting for the rights of America’s gun owners. A fearsome courtroom litigator fighting for rights, justice, and freedom. An unrelenting gun rights spokesman tearing away at anti-gun propaganda to expose the truth. Author of six best-selling books on gun rights including Nappen on Gun Law, a bright orange gun law Bible that sits atop the desk of virtually every lawyer, police chief, firearms dealer, and savvy gun owner. That’s what made Evan Nappen America’s Gun Lawyer. Gun laws are designed to make you a criminal. Don’t become the innocent victim of a vicious anti-gun legal system. This is the guy you want on your side. Keep his name and number in your wallet and hope you Page – 4 – of 7
never have to use it. But if you live, work, or travel with a firearm, the deck is already stacked against you. You can find him on the web at EvanNappen.com or follow the link on the Gun Lawyer resource page. Evan Nappen – America’s Gun Lawyer.
Evan Nappen 14:54
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Evan Nappen 15:09
Hey, welcome back folks to Gun Lawyer. I’m Evan Nappen. Thank you for joining me. I really appreciate my listeners. And it’s great if you subscribe. Anywhere you get the podcast, grab it, sign up for it, we’re there for you. It’s free. We try to keep you informed of all these important things. One of which I’m going to tell you about next, something really important, something really crazy, something yet again, showing the extreme of New Jersey. Every time you think they can’t do anything worse, and they can’t be more extreme, more crazy, they never let you down. Because it’s always more extreme and more crazy.
Evan Nappen 15:55
The latest bill that I need to tell you about is a bill in the Assembly, it’s Assembly 4557. It is sponsored by Verlina Reynolds-Jackson, District 15 (Hunterdon and Mercer). It is important to know the people that put these atrocities forward. It’s important to understand who it is that’s doing this to the people. Let me tell you what this bill does, folks. This bill increases the penalty for possession and manufacturing of 3D (three-dimensional) printed guns, for possession manufacture of the parts in such, possession, including via the Internet, of firearm data – data, just the data itself, on how to make these guns or make homemade firearms. Something that Americans have been doing since before the country was a country. And again, same bill, increasing the penalty for possession of covert firearms or firearms that are “undetectable”, so undetectable as though you know plastic guns scare. Covert is anything that doesn’t look like a traditional firearm, like a gun cane or the perfectly legal pen guns, guns that look similar to credit card or cell phone. ATF has no problem with them, but New Jersey does. They’ve banned them. Then also in this penalty upgrade. I haven’t told you what they’ve upgraded the penalty to. I’m holding that for a few more moments here. Possession here.
Evan Nappen 17:58
If you transport or if you ship, sell or dispose of a firearm manufactured or otherwise assembled, which doesn’t have a serial number on it from the federally licensed manufacturer. This includes, folks, all the pre 1968 guns that have no serial numbers. The .22s, shotguns, revolvers, where there was no serial number required. Those guns and all the other guns that I just named there, this bill increases the penalty to, ready, drumroll please – a First Degree crime. That’s right – making these gun offenses the equivalent of murder. Murder is First Degree. That’s right First Degree. And now, these offenses are First Degree. If you transport your grandfather’s .22 that was in the family, that was purchased prior to 1968, that doesn’t have a serial number. If you transport it to the range and get stopped or if you transport it to go hunting and get stopped, you’re looking at a criminal charge equivalent to a murder charge. First Degree – up to 20 years. 20 years. And with a first degree, do you think you’re getting out on bail? You think that bail reform? No, you’re going in the gun owner Gulag, and you’re going to sit Page – 5 – of 7
there in the gun owner Gulag until your trial for your possession or your grandpa’s .22 because you transported it to the range or while hunting. Oh, yeah.
Evan Nappen 20:05
If you have a covert firearm, if you have that antique cane gun, New Jersey doesn’t distinguish between antiques and not. Well, that’s a First-Degree crime to possess that. Or you inadvertently downloaded data on how to make a gun, how to print a gun. How to run a CNC machine to cut a gun part, even though you never intended to make it. You just wanted to see how it worked. You’re mechanically inclined. You’re curious. How does this work? How do you machine it? How does it work? Oh, well, just possessing the data, you’re looking at a First-Degree crime. New Jersey is making gun information, the equivalent of child pornography. Actually worse. It’s First Degree. Now worse than child pornography. For possession of gun data. You had the nerve to try to make your own gun. If you try that, it’s a First-Degree charge for you. That’s what New Jersey is up to here with this bill. It shows you the attitude of our legislators to the Second Amendment and our rights. They don’t see it at all.
Evan Nappen 21:24
Delaware just recently found that the so-called “ghost gun”, what I call a homemade firearm, unconstitutional, the law banning it in Delaware under Bruen. Under the Bruen decision, applying that standard, and finding it no good. I’m hopeful as well that all of these laws in New Jersey will be found to be unconstitutional. As the cases proceed, we’ll see these outrageous and atrocious and disgusting laws fall, one by one as unconstitutional, catastrophes that they are. We can cheer as our rights get restored. As the Second Amendment is now empowered and given teeth, and that is the shining light of hope that we have. You can thank Justice Thomas for his wonderful decision and putting that majority opinion out there, that is now paving the way to taking these horrible laws down.
Evan Nappen 22:37
I’m sure that these laws will be challenged accordingly. This is so outrageous. They just increased the penalties on all those things. In the last batch of the Murphy laws, they increased it from Third Degree to Second Degree, making it 10 years. Suddenly that’s not sufficient – 10 years for this? No, it’s got to be First Degree. I’m going to tell you right now, and you can say that, hey, I remember Evan saying this on Gun Lawyer. I have no doubt that New Jersey will, at some point, have the Death Penalty for gun possession. Even though normally the left is against the death penalty, but not when it comes to gun owners. I’m sure they’ll make an exception for gun owners and put that death penalty. Because we have to have the toughest laws in the whole country, right? Gotta be the toughest. Once we make it all First Degree, what’s left? The only thing harder is capital crime, death penalty. I know New Jersey loves to be the first and show how tough they are. So, I’m sure we’ll see death penalty for gun possession out of New Jersey. Do you doubt it? I don’t. Not one bit. It’ll happen unless we can eliminate them before they make it death penalty.
Evan Nappen 24:14
Even the fact that they are putting us in the same category as murderers. From the Gulog, to no bail, to possessory offenses of things that were legal, and just overnight, making them illegal. These laws have no effect on crime. It’s irrelevant to crime. It has nothing to do with our safety. Nothing to do with public safety. It’s all such a lie. It’s an incredible lie. Look, I’ll tell you what two words, two words that have four Page – 6 – of 7
letters and mean the exact same thing and begin with the letter “L”. Two words that begin with the letter “L”, have four letters and mean the exact same thing. The answer is Left and Lies. That’s right, Left and Lies. That’s what they spew, and then the lies become statutes. Then the good people suffer under their lies, and that’s what we have to deal with.
Evan Nappen 25:28
So, you better stay on top of it and know what games they are playing so that you do not become a victim of New Jersey gun laws. You do not want to become a victim. You’ll hear the left talk about, oh, “victims of gun violence”, look at the “victims of gun violence”, all the time. Their legacy media spouting their propagated “victims of gun violence”. You don’t hear about victims of gun laws. New Jersey has victim after victim of their gun laws. They make their laws more extreme, more draconian, and more numerous, so they can create more and more victims of gun laws. You don’t hear the legacy media talking about it. You hear it on Gun Lawyer. I don’t want to see any of you ever become a victim of New Jersey gun laws.
Evan Nappen 26:27
I have a letter here from John. John says regarding Visa. What is your take on Visa/ MasterCard creating a special label that said you bought something at a gun shop? And legally can they do this? Are they going to mark a special purchase when buying a paper target, a cleaning kit, a gun safe? What is the bank going to do? Call you up every time you buy something and ask why you need it? And if you don’t give them the right answer, they might arrest you.
Evan Nappen 26:59
Well, it’s hard to say exactly how they’re going to use this other than to track us, to track gun purchases and such. But the label is just an indicator on the charge that it was a purchase of guns and ammunition from a store. But it’s not specific as to exactly what was purchased. It could be that if you buy a gun safe, they’re just going to think of it as a gun purchase. Now whether they’re going to stop the transaction or pull those shenanigans, I don’t know. I guess they could. What you’re seeing is that gun shops are putting in ATMs. I was just talking to a gun dealer today who said he’s getting an ATM. He’s buying his own ATM, and they’re going to fill it with their own cash. Then when you use your card, it’s simply the pin on your card for taking out the cash and that’s not going to send the flags or recordation. It’s simply going to be that. With the private ATM, the dealer can just keep refilling it and circulating it with the cash which is theirs. I think we are going to see a lot of it.
Evan Nappen 28:20
One dealer just told me that since the announcement of this procedure by these credit card companies to implement this tracking at the behest of the anti-gun lobby. They always call it the gun lobby, but the actual lobby is the anti-gun lobby. They’re the real freakin lobby, and they pushed the credit card companies to doing this. This dealer told me that he used to operate where it was about 30% cash and about 70% credit card. Just from the news of this spreading, he said it reversed on him. He is now doing 70% cash and 30% credit card. So, the gun buying public just knew themselves, saying screw it, we’re not going to get tagged and listed by credit card companies invading our privacy. Do you know what happens when a credit card purchase is made? Credit card companies make money. You see the only way credit card companies make money is if you use a credit card. When you use a credit card, Page – 7 – of 7
they get fees. Just the announcement of this has cost them big bucks already. Guns are normally a higher ticket item. So, they’re so stupid, business wise, so wokey left or whatever, that they’re losing money, big money already, just by having this policy known. That means less credit card transactions in a flip of 70/30 on the percentages. These businesses are just dumb. They’re just dumb. Seriously, they do this for what? To satisfy the anti-gun lobby and lose enormous amounts of money in doing it? Then have people dropping their cards, not using their cards, and then switching into a cash basis where, hey, guess what, dealers will make more money, because they don’t have to pay credit card companies their fees. When you pay in cash, it’s great. A dealer would rather get it in cash than have to pay a credit card company credit fees so you can run your credit card. It’s going to actually have the opposite effect in the long run anyway, which is good. See dealers make more money. See credit card companies make less money. See more privacy for the gun owner. That’s what happens. Again, the consequences seem unforeseen or uncalculated. When the reality hits, then it’s a different story, folks. Anyway, this is Evan Nappen, reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.
Speaker 3 31:44
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About The Host
Evan Nappen, Esq.
Known as “America’s Gun Lawyer,” Evan Nappen is above all a tireless defender of justice. Author of eight bestselling books and countless articles on firearms, knives, and weapons history and the law, a certified Firearms Instructor, and avid weapons collector and historian with a vast collection that spans almost five decades — it’s no wonder he’s become the trusted, go-to expert for local, industry and national media outlets.
Regularly called on by radio, television and online news media for his commentary and expertise on breaking news Evan has appeared countless shows including Fox News – Judge Jeanine, CNN – Lou Dobbs, Court TV, Real Talk on WOR, It’s Your Call with Lyn Doyle, Tom Gresham’s Gun Talk, and Cam & Company/NRA News.
As a creative arts consultant, he also lends his weapons law and historical expertise to an elite, discerning cadre of movie and television producers and directors, and novelists.
He also provides expert testimony and consultations for defense attorneys across America.
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